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is super still canon after daima episode 18?
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Feb 28, 12:03 PM
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Do people on this website know how to think for themselves? Of course Super is still canon.
Feb 28, 12:07 PM
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stevejawbs said:
@Irshiki Oh shit you were in here talking about this shit too lmao.

Jfc, if you saw a dog on the street you'd question if it was a dog or not until the owner explicitly told you it's a dog.

If your eyes and your brain connected you would have understood what I was saying. I'm always friendly and polite, but seeing the effort you're putting into being insistent and your bully attitude I now understand that you're just a creepy nerd man who want just want to argue with people who are just enjoying something they like. Hope you'll too find something you like to finally be happy in your life.
Don't bother me again, please.
@Irshiki This was literally your original comment:
Irshiki said:
You're ranting because you don't find it logic, but you're starting from the wrong point. Who told you that this trasformation is Super Saiyan 4? You're assuming it with little evidences but nobody explained what it is. Wait till they reveal the name of the transformation, there are high chances it will not be Super Saiyan 4.


Then everyone tried to tell you it's SSJ4, because it looks exactly like SSJ4, and there's no reason it'd be anything else, but you kept saying "DURR they didn't ackshually say ssjay4 so its nawt ssjy4 unteil dey sey it"

So yeah, of course you'd get shit on when you're proven wrong. That's what happens when you invest so much into defending your shitty position.
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Marinate1016 said:
Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho
Feb 28, 12:13 PM
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stevejawbs said:
@Irshiki This was literally your original comment:
Irshiki said:
You're ranting because you don't find it logic, but you're starting from the wrong point. Who told you that this trasformation is Super Saiyan 4? You're assuming it with little evidences but nobody explained what it is. Wait till they reveal the name of the transformation, there are high chances it will not be Super Saiyan 4.


Then everyone tried to tell you it's SSJ4, because it looks exactly like SSJ4, and there's no reason it'd be anything else, but you kept saying "DURR they didn't ackshually say ssjay4 so its nawt ssjy4 unteil dey sey it"

So yeah, of course you'd get shit on when you're proven wrong. That's what happens when you invest so much into defending your shitty position.

First of all, it was just my simple reasoning. Talking about branding it would have been smarter give it another name to avoid to overlap GT merchande. The transformation looks like Super Saiyan 4 as people knew in GT but it different in character design, meaning in the story and what it is so they are essentially thing that are only similar. So I was expecting they would have given it another name.
Second and last, I only expressed my thoughts, I didn't haunted someone over various threads to try mock him over something he said, which was the way I saw the things, which is not a crime.
You know the drill, please don't bother me again.
Feb 28, 12:25 PM

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Super is Canon...
And this is a side story but it's also canon
Feb 28, 12:32 PM
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stevejawbs said:
@Irshiki This was literally your original comment:
Irshiki said:
You're ranting because you don't find it logic, but you're starting from the wrong point. Who told you that this trasformation is Super Saiyan 4? You're assuming it with little evidences but nobody explained what it is. Wait till they reveal the name of the transformation, there are high chances it will not be Super Saiyan 4.


Then everyone tried to tell you it's SSJ4, because it looks exactly like SSJ4, and there's no reason it'd be anything else, but you kept saying "DURR they didn't ackshually say ssjay4 so its nawt ssjy4 unteil dey sey it"

So yeah, of course you'd get shit on when you're proven wrong. That's what happens when you invest so much into defending your shitty position.

First of all, it was just my simple reasoning. Talking about branding it would have been smarter give it another name to avoid to overlap GT merchande. The transformation looks like Super Saiyan 4 as people knew in GT but it different in character design, meaning in the story and what it is so they are essentially thing that are only similar. So I was expecting they would have given it another name.
Second and last, I only expressed my thoughts, I didn't haunted someone over various threads to try mock him over something he said, which was the way I saw the things, which is not a crime.
You know the drill, please don't bother me again.
@Irshiki That reason doesn't make any sense lol, why would they use the exact same design but change just the name? That'd make it more confusing for no reason. Why doesn't that logic apply to Vegeta's SSJ3, which you've said in your previous comment?

Can you name me another show or franchise where they keep the exact same look, but change just the name? Since this would've been "smarter", I'm sure there's lots of examples in the industry right?

I replied to you in literally two threads - The first one where we had our back and forth, and then in this one, for the exact same show, where you also wrote your ridiculous comment about how you need to be spoonfed info. I agree with you that it's not a crime to say stupid things, but it's also not a crime for me to tell you that what you said was really dumb.

You know the drill, spout more stupid shit so I can shit on you again.
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Marinate1016 said:
Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho
Feb 28, 12:43 PM
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Still canon , Goku lied to Vegeta this last ep about him training to unlock ssj4 when we clearly saw Neva give him some temporal boost inside his body to obtain it, He ofc was def working on getting something above SSJ3 but Goku doesn't seem to know he got it temporarily thanks to Neva and will probably will find out off screen that he cannot tap into it anymore due to the power going away after leaving the Demon Realm, then we see him train to unlock SSJ4 before beerus fight then God form happens and that training to get SSJ4 becomes obsolete.

Vegata got 1 tapped by beeruss so quickly he didnt have time to go SSJ2 Or SSJ3 vs beerus, after this all wee see him is get God form making his SSJ3 useless.

Kibito and kai can fuse anytime they want so that still works fine.

so everything still seems fine if you use your head a little it can still be cannon very easily.

I think the Beast Gohan thing might give Goku an idea to use god power with SSJ4 since its a similar form to ssj4 and goku observed gohan enough
Feb 28, 1:03 PM

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stevejawbs said:
continuity !== canon


I don't see how you can dissociate both of these, when the Canon refers to the events/elements that do happen/exist in the grand scheme of the story. (Unless using an excuse of retcon/reboot, of course.)

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Still canon [...]


That's just mental gymnastics. The truth is probably that all the staff really doesn't care about all of that.
"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
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"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

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stevejawbs said:
@Irshiki That reason doesn't make any sense lol, why would they use the exact same design but change just the name? That'd make it more confusing for no reason. Why doesn't that logic apply to Vegeta's SSJ3, which you've said in your previous comment?

Can you name me another show or franchise where they keep the exact same look, but change just the name? Since this would've been "smarter", I'm sure there's lots of examples in the industry right?

I replied to you in literally two threads - The first one where we had our back and forth, and then in this one, for the exact same show, where you also wrote your ridiculous comment about how you need to be spoonfed info. I agree with you that it's not a crime to say stupid things, but it's also not a crime for me to tell you that what you said was really dumb.

You know the drill, spout more stupid shit so I can shit on you again.

It's not the same look, that what I meant when I said "eyes connected to the brain".
Though, anything you could say, that's what I thought and that's it, I don't have to give explanations, it's not a problem thinking.
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Still 100% canon. SSJ4 fans can suck it up because SSJB being stronger than SSJ4 is now canon.

It wasn't used against Beerus because Goku didn't have the time. Goku never goes final stage immediately. Both him and Vegeta prefer underestimating the opponent so they can have fun, just like I love pretend to be ignorant on certain topics so I can hear silly things and make other people mad when they realise I know more than them. Only difference is my figurative ass doesn't get kicked as often as theirs lol

SSJ3 Vegeta against Beerus. Same thing.

Why would someone use inferior, obsolete transformations after they reached God and Blue in a fight they know they can't win those transformations? It'd make no sense. If they didn't know, they'd still use, but Beerus doesn't mess around seeing how he casually flicked Goku on the forehead before he could even use SSJ3, and easily disposed of SSJ1 Vegeta because he was too bored...

Rymus has not been mentioned. So what? It's not like they instantly overload everybody with information the moment they meet. It's not like Goku knew about Zeno the moment he met Beerus and Whis. Did he know Whis had a sister? Did he know Nahare can teleport anywhere in Universe 6 at will? No. Just because fans want an information overload, it doesn't mean it's going to happen. So they still have time to talk about Rymus if they want to.

Continuity errors exist in every single sequel, literally. There's absolutely no novel, manga, anime, tv show, or film series that doesn't have continuity errors. Zero. This is because authors don't even know everything they're going to create before they have created. Sometimes they didn't even want to make sequels, prequels, or spinoffs at all, then they were convinced or changed their minds. You can't remember exactly everything that you've written, at all times.
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The only true canon is the original manga. The canonicity of everything that came afterwards is up to personal preference.
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Still 100% canon. SSJ4 fans can suck it up because SSJB being stronger than SSJ4 is now canon.

It wasn't used against Beerus because Goku didn't have the time. Goku never goes final stage immediately. Both him and Vegeta prefer underestimating the opponent so they can have fun, just like I love pretend to be ignorant on certain topics so I can hear silly things and make other people mad when they realise I know more than them. Only difference is my figurative ass doesn't get kicked as often as theirs lol

SSJ3 Vegeta against Beerus. Same thing.

Why would someone use inferior, obsolete transformations after they reached God and Blue in a fight they know they can't win those transformations? It'd make no sense. If they didn't know, they'd still use, but Beerus doesn't mess around seeing how he casually flicked Goku on the forehead before he could even use SSJ3, and easily disposed of SSJ1 Vegeta because he was too bored...

Rymus has not been mentioned. So what? It's not like they instantly overload everybody with information the moment they meet. It's not like Goku knew about Zeno the moment he met Beerus and Whis. Did he know Whis had a sister? Did he know Nahare can teleport anywhere in Universe 6 at will? No. Just because fans want an information overload, it doesn't mean it's going to happen. So they still have time to talk about Rymus if they want to.

Continuity errors exist in every single sequel, literally. There's absolutely no novel, manga, anime, tv show, or film series that doesn't have continuity errors. Zero. This is because authors don't even know everything they're going to create before they have created. Sometimes they didn't even want to make sequels, prequels, or spinoffs at all, then they were convinced or changed their minds. You can't remember exactly everything that you've written, at all times.
TrueDragonPrince said:
It wasn't used against Beerus because Goku didn't have the time.

Goku had all the time in the world to transform because Beerus was waiting for him to show his full power...

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Well yeah since daima is canon and it takes place in times after the times of Z and before the times of super, it was confirmed by the director of dragon ball, hope that helped👍
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TrueDragonPrince said:
It wasn't used against Beerus because Goku didn't have the time.

Goku had all the time in the world to transform because Beerus was waiting for him to show his full power...

@Yaggamy We still don't even know if SSJ4 works outside the demon realm, and I haven't read the manga. I only watched the anime.
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