RedGlow

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I never ever would have thought that an update from Eva would take about 5 (!) months. 3 months were realistic recently, but 5? With Eva's GGGB (1 month)and the first few ORS updates (2 months) it seems now like you're waiting forever for it.
Hopefully this will level off at a maximum of 3 months in the future. But: more stuff, more routes, more branches...more complications and problems for Eva? :/
I heard that she took some time off during the development of this chapter. That's the main reason why it is delayed till october. I don't think this will be a regular thing. I got your point but don't forget that Eva is only human too.
 
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fortuna95

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I heard that she took some time off during the development of this chapter. That's the main reason why it is delayed till october. I don't think this will be a regular thing. I got your point but don't forget that Eva is only human too.
It was 2 or 3 weeks of vacation iirc.
The main reason will probably be the complication of the writing, which she has already admitted. I'm her Patron and I'm not complaining either, but ~5 months of waiting feels kind of unreal if you're used to wait 1-2 months earlier. A year ago I would never have believed that something like this would be possible. But we all know: the life is full of (mostly negative) surprises :sneaky:
 

dontcarewhateverno

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Ok. I didn't want to share this photo as to avoid doxxing Eva's face. But I want to put to rest the misconceptions as she never actually "promised" to have the chapter released by October 1. What she said was... well, note the picture and timestamp. This evidence was shared with her most exclusive Patreons only and I'll likely get in trouble for sharing. But promise most definitely fulfilled. Eva's also, evidently, impressively flexible.
 
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Scenes I'm most looking forward to are
Ivy's place with Lena and Holly, where Ivy brings a guy for Holly to practice on.
Maybe Jeremy, but without Louise to hold us back.

I went the bro route with Ian, and was looking forward to Jeremy sharing pics of him and Lena.
He was eager to tell Ian about the blowjob before he got interrupted.
Was disappointed when Lena swore him to secrecy, so I hope he makes an exception for Ian.
Eventually lead to an MMF threesome with Ian, Jeremy, and Lena. (Emma too at some point.)
 

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Eva's updates are quite genuine, she told us what she's trying to do, and the challenges of it. Perhaps it's better to give her some emotional support rather than grabbing her neck saying she's a liar.

Constructive criticism could be helpful, but complain is just someone whining.

For paying patrons, ask yourself, do you believe Eva can deliver ORS? Is it worth the money? If the answer is Yes, stop whining. If the answer is No, why are you still paying?
 

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It was 2 or 3 weeks of vacation iirc.
The main reason will probably be the complication of the writing, which she has already admitted. I'm her Patron and I'm not complaining either, but ~5 months of waiting feels kind of unreal if you're used to wait 1-2 months earlier. A year ago I would never have believed that something like this would be possible. But we all know: the life is full of (mostly negative) surprises :sneaky:
Except if you look at their timeline of updates, this isn't unusual and given large updates this is actually more for par for the course.

No. The last Chapter (Chapter 7) came out in March 2021.

Chapter 6 came out in December 2020.

Chapter 5 came out in August 2020.

Chapter 4 came out in July 2020.

Chapter 6 was huge however. So, depending on the length it varies quite significantly.
Just to reiterate:

Wait between Chapter 7 and 8 was 3 months.

Wait between Chapter 6 to 7 was 3 months.

Chapter 5 to 6 was 4 months

Chapter 4 to 5 was 1 month

Not sure what u'all are complaining about tbh. If you want to gripe about anyone, I'd say look at Summertime Saga, which in fairness is an excellent game but has small updates maybe twice a year. Given that their Patreon makes $359k USD a year... I'd have more issue with that than anyone else. At least Eva comes up with relatively speedy and regular updates that are not just consistent but actually push the narrative forward.
 
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She's trying her best, not jerking off like us.
It smells like November :rolleyes:
When it rains in November ;)
just in time for nnn
Make an exception. Cindy wouldn't mind ;)
I will not wait ch 10. May be among the other games in 2023 i will download ch 11.
You said that last month. Yet, you're here.
Dang, I have seriously conflicting feeling about Seymour in this pic. On the one hand he looks like a seriously fuckable daddy right there, and not just that, but good enough to be romance-able; as in, he doesn't look slimy like his sprite often does - he looks respectable.
On the other hand, I know it's all an illusion and the man cannot be trusted, and I'll probably hate the scene cos classy, intimate images like this make me want things for my Lena that I probably won't be getting in a long time (if ever), and definately not in this scene. Damn it!

Really nice art though. Fingers crossed we get some equally nice Cindy and Alison art. :)
Have you considered Seymour/Ian or Seymour/Axel?
 
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sztrb

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I'm wondering if there's gonna be a "depravity" route with Alison, i mean, she's seemingly willing to accept anything Ian asks of her, a couple of exhibitionist events would be baller.

Kinda like the "gangster" path in GGGB.
Except for anal... which to me is sadly a deal breaker for that route...
 

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Eva's updates are quite genuine, she told us what she's trying to do, and the challenges of it. Perhaps it's better to give her some emotional support rather than grabbing her neck saying she's a liar.

Constructive criticism could be helpful, but complain is just someone whining.

For paying patrons, ask yourself, do you believe Eva can deliver ORS? Is it worth the money? If the answer is Yes, stop whining. If the answer is No, why are you still paying?
Her ACTUAL patreons and the ones who actually have a saying in this are more tolerant and supporting, you can read the comments on her public posts so whiners will continue to whine but since Eva doesn't read or give a shit about what these whiners say.

She delivered monthly consistent updates for GGGB for years but whiners chose to shit all over it.
 

Rosequake

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I'm pretty chill about this because Eva has already proven through GGGB that she does deliver the goods. I don't think 99% of the people posting on this forum know how time consuming making a game like this can be, especially after the initial chapters when multiple branches make everything complicated as shit. If you want to really see what a grifter looks like, just look at Female Agent, where the dev has been slowly shrinking the game and removing what little content there was for the last three years whilst somehow milking thousands of dollars a month from gullible idiots.
 

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Have you considered Seymour/Ian or Seymour/Axel?
How do you mean - with Lena in a threesome? or in a gay sense? lol
I mean, I wouldn't really be opposed to either scenario, to be honest... :p

I have considered Seymour/Lena/Axel and I think there is a chance that could happen if it continues along this line of Seymour's photo-shoots assisted by Axel, and a sub Lena who likes both of them.

I hadn't really thought of Seymour/Lena/Ian, but that could actually be pretty interesting, and possibly not that unthinkable further along if Seymour pulls Lena in (and she becomes his mistress, or even his girlfriend), and Ian works closely with Seymour (possible becomes his protege and someone he could come to really trust near the end), and they all work on Seymour's questionable schemes together. lol
Except for anal... which to me is sadly a deal breaker for that route...
Just to clarify - are you saying you do or don't like anal for Alison?

Because if you do like it (which is what I assume), I'm thinking that anal may be something that Alison eventually come around to, although it could be a while.

I know Alison said she doesn't like anal and won't do it, but we know that Alison starts out kinda conservative, both in the way she dresses and the way she handles sex, but we also see that she is both eager to please Ian (barking like a dog during sex, which I don't think any of us were expecting) and willing to bend to Ian's will in her attempt to keep him close (first being angry when he came inside her despite her telling him not to, then accepting it, and eventually admitting it was really hot - possibly loving to do it in future). We also see how much she insists on being the focus of Ian's attention, either by cutting in on his conversations with other people, or by changing up the way she dresses when Ian comments that he finds Cherry's outfit sexy (and it's sexier then what she's wearing). A lot of what she does is an attempt to have Ian completely to herself and only looking at her - she's nuts about him. So it doesn't seem impossible that her strict stance on 'no anal' might slip down the track, especially if she finds out that Ian has done it with other girls, and/or that he really likes it.

Personally I really don't like the idea of Alison feeling compelled to do it just because she knows Ian likes it, while secretly not being convinced herself. It's emotional manipulation if Ian recognizes these patterns of hers and deliberately plays on her insecurities and her feelings for him to get what he wants in future, but I guess it might work for a chad Ian who is only with Alison for the sex, has thoroughly hooked her, and doesn't really care about what she wants because he believes she'll love it anyway. Man, he sounds like an asshole in that scenario. lol.

If Ian and Alison are in romantic relationship though, or Ian at least cares about her in some way, I think it makes sense for it to happen more naturally and for Alison to be totally on board with it. Like Alison goes from having her misgivings to being a bit curious, and feeling secure and trusting enough in her relationship with Ian at that point to try it. Maybe Ian has helped her to explore some other exotic aspects of sex/bdsm by that point so anal seems relatively tame or normal in comparison, and something she'd be more willing to try as a result.

But you know, if none of that happens and Alison sticks by her refusal to do it, you gotta at least admire that she knows what she wants, and won't bend on every little thing.
I still think that there is a sweet spot with this kind of VN regarding quality and content delivery and GGGB was in a perfect place regarding that.
Yeah but GGGB wasn't anything close to the quality or complexity of ORS, which are factors which make this game one of the best adult games on this site. I liked GGGB well enough, but if ORS went back to that standard I would be a lot less thrilled about the game in general. I don't think there is any sweet spot in terms of sacrificing one for the other here, without harming the end product in some way.

IMO the best setup would probably be if Eva hired one or two more people to take care of the more menial tasks she currently does. IDK who currently helps Eva and with what (I only know she does a lot of work herself) so take this with a grain of salt, but giving over jobs like tracing and coloring the graphics, and the coding to other people, freeing up Eve to focus on the planning and writing, then 'quality checking'/approving the drawings so everything meets her standards and works well together... could possibly help.

But that's something she'd need to be convinced was the right way - it's not easy to give over control of your baby as someone who is a perfectionist and used to taking care of so much yourself. Plus I'm not sure what it would mean for her financially - whether it would be viable to hire more people or not.
 
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