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Apr 16, 2017 7:46 AM

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Ruu said:
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Ahh I see.. is vanilla townie include to be one? :o


VT can only vote so no (:


Okay thank you :D



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Apr 16, 2017 7:48 AM

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@Eufie what are your reasons for voting @bmoore07 ?
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Apr 16, 2017 7:53 AM

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Mwiep said:
@Eufie what are your reasons for voting @bmoore07 ?


1st Ive said it before... he got Sailor Pluto which Pluto = Hades = God of Underground hehe.... so i got a gut from there.. well I might be wrong...
2nd cause he only post once and so far he doesnt vote for someone with reason.. this either he is lazy or he just dont wanna talk to much here which for me Im thinking he might trying to be at "safe" place... assuming he is a mafia...
3rd I was about to vote for liz but I asked Soren about voting system which I think I was mistaken it.. I just check my pm history with Soren and I was asking if I could vote another people and Soren said I cant vote more than one at the same time but CP said I could change vote but Im thinking I will just stick to him for now.. as gambling :) hehe

Addition : what I mean is CP's post at #424 :)
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Apr 16, 2017 8:32 AM

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⭐ Vote Count 1.2 ⭐




logic340 (2): YugureShadowmore, liz
bmoore07(2): Eufie, Ruu
Ruu (2): AbuHumaid, bmoore07
CorruptedPurity (1): Gruffin
Oyasumi_Rosie (1): coromandel
liz (1): CorruptedPurity

Players Not Voting (4): Oyasumi_Rosie, Floofs, logic340, Mwiep

For a majority lynch to take place, 7 votes on one player is required. Votes will be locked if this is achieved.
If a majority lynch is not achieved, a plurality lynch will take place, meaning whoever has the highest votes will get lynched.


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Apr 16, 2017 8:41 AM

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@soren what happened if there is no plurality?

Apr 16, 2017 9:05 AM

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Meh, if you see the games I referenced, I did the same shit as I'm doing now. But alot of ppl won't believe self meta so its fine too if you think I'm suspicious for it.

If it makes you feel better, I will most probably drop a vote soon, starting to form reads...

Also, once again, don't touch Rosie. (She's most prob TPR knowing her record Kappa)
Serious talk @coromandel. Rosie makes the game so much more fun fr fr
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another double post how is this happening?
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Apr 16, 2017 9:11 AM

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logic340 said:
another double post how is this happening?
you normally use mobile right? I had some problems with double post earlier too

Apr 16, 2017 9:13 AM

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logic340 said:
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Meh, if you see the games I referenced, I did the same shit as I'm doing now. But alot of ppl won't believe self meta so its fine too if you think I'm suspicious for it.

If it makes you feel better, I will most probably drop a vote soon, starting to form reads...

Also, once again, don't touch Rosie. (She's most prob TPR knowing her record Kappa)
Serious talk @coromandel. Rosie makes the game so much more fun fr fr


If you dont mind me asking.. what is fr fr? :o



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Apr 16, 2017 9:14 AM

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@soren what happened if there is no plurality?
If you are talking about a tie, there will be a no lynch.
Apr 16, 2017 9:18 AM

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Alright people RVS votes this late in the stage are not a good thing for us. We have 4 hours left and need to start forming a consensus. People who have played with me know if we cannot come to a consensus then I am willing to bring up the idea of a no lynch? Personally in this setup I am not necessarily for a No Lynch but if activity and opinions don't increase it's going to be hard to justify a lynch and I would hate to be lynched off RVS.
There are pros and cons to this No Lynch idea. @CorruptedPurity,, @Gruffin, @Ruu, @Oyasumi_Rosie, @coromande care to add any pros and cons to my list?l
Pros:
We don't risk lynching town on a whim
We don't risk lynching a power role and they can all do their jobs tonight

Cons:
Limits the information town has to work with headed into D2
Unless there is a Vigilante in this setup the only way to kill mafia I by lynching them.
Suspect pool doesn't shrink
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Apr 16, 2017 9:19 AM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
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another double post how is this happening?
you normally use mobile right? I had some problems with double post earlier too
It's happening from Computer this time IDK what is going on. Maybe my mouse button is sticking?
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Apr 16, 2017 9:41 AM

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Eufie said:
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Serious talk @coromandel. Rosie makes the game so much more fun fr fr


If you dont mind me asking.. what is fr fr? :o
For Real For Real
At this stage I don't know Rosie's alignment she is acting like she normally does and I have never seen her as mafia. She brings a lighthearted nature to a game that can get rather stressful which is why even if she is mafia I would like to keep her around for at least another round.
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Wont Lynch:
Rosie - She's fluffy but that doesn't make her scum. It doesn't make her town either I am neutral but I feel she will be good for the game at least another day.
Eufie - Really liking their approach to figuring things out. Remind me of my good friend Sollux in their early career as town. New player feel but more new town based on nature of questions.
liz - Very inquisitive player and feels like the questions come from a new town mindset.

Make a case:
everyone else
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Apr 16, 2017 9:47 AM

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logic340 said:
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If you dont mind me asking.. what is fr fr? :o
For Real For Real
At this stage I don't know Rosie's alignment she is acting like she normally does and I have never seen her as mafia. She brings a lighthearted nature to a game that can get rather stressful which is why even if she is mafia I would like to keep her around for at least another round.


ahh I see :D

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Eufie - Really liking their approach to figuring things out. Remind me of my good friend Sollux in their early career as town. New player feel but more new town based on nature of questions.


Mhh if you dont mind me asking.. what does this "but more new town based on nature of questions" mean? :o I mean my main isnt English XD



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Apr 16, 2017 9:49 AM

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Don't worry. I won't let no lynch happen again if I can prevent it. There is this one thing you said, however, that isn't 100% true
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I have never seen her as mafia.

You haven't seen me play scum before, but you did heard me ;p

Apr 16, 2017 9:51 AM

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If I may be honest, I want to avoid lynching new players so long as they aren't acting super scum, at least for the first phase. Only for the reason that the game doesn't really start until D2 for most players.

That being said, nobody really sticks out, in terms of wanting to vote.

Apr 16, 2017 9:53 AM

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@logic340 mmhh for me... and for now.. after a little observation,,, Im kinda 65% sure that these people are okay...

1. Ruu
2. Logic
3. Coromandel
4. Floofs

I think thats all... the rest.. Im not sure... as for CP case.. he could be 100% town or 100% mafia.. even if I said I have the guts of him being 100% town but I wont put him on the list for now...

I think thats all... as for vote.. like Ive been saying... that I want to gamble.. and I pick bmoore07 for it.. the reason you could read at my post #453

Addition : that percentage up there could be change tho... as the days going on if I still alive hehe :)
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Eufie said:
logic340 said:
For Real For Real
At this stage I don't know Rosie's alignment she is acting like she normally does and I have never seen her as mafia. She brings a lighthearted nature to a game that can get rather stressful which is why even if she is mafia I would like to keep her around for at least another round.


ahh I see :D

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Eufie - Really liking their approach to figuring things out. Remind me of my good friend Sollux in their early career as town. New player feel but more new town based on nature of questions.


Mhh if you dont mind me asking.. what does this "but more new town based on nature of questions" mean? :o I mean my main isnt English XD
You are a new player and I can definitely see that in your posts. Now the newer players I have played with that were lost as town feel more like you and liz. Sollux is an good example of this (for those who have played with him). I get the feeling your questions are more from new town player rather than new mafia player. The nature of your questions and the way you rationalize things in the thread just seems so pure and town. You appear to be trying to figure things out land I don't see you trying to lead people to a conclusion. Which I would expect from mafia to an extent.
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Eufie said:
@logic340 mmhh for me... and for now.. after a little observation,,, Im kinda 65% sure that these people are okay...

1. Ruu
2. Logic
3. Coromandel
4. Floofs

I think thats all... the rest.. Im not sure... as for CP case.. he could be 100% town or 100% mafia.. even if I said I have the guts of him being 100% town but I wont put him on the list for now...

I think thats all... as for vote.. like Ive been saying... that I want to gamble.. and I pick bmoore07 for it.. the reason you could read at my post #453

Addition that percentage up there could be change tho... as the days going on if I still alive hehe :)
So I take it you do not believe that CP could be 3rd party and that is due to his assurance of it being his choices for the setup?
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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
If I may be honest, I want to avoid lynching new players so long as they aren't acting super scum, at least for the first phase. Only for the reason that the game doesn't really start until D2 for most players.

That being said, nobody really sticks out, in terms of wanting to vote.
I was actually thinking something similar.

While I will be playing to my win condition I will be trying to make this game as enjoyable and understandable for the new players. So while I love winning I will be making more of an attempt to help new players understand what is actually happening in the game. So I know this is going to sound crazy as hell but in an effort to help the newer players gain an understanding of things I suggest we lynch one of the more veteran (MS Club members) mafia players D1. This will give the newer players a chance to better understand how the game actually works as well as not discouraging someone who didn't know what was going on and got lynched. It's just a suggestion and normally I would never suggest something like this but in an effort to show people how much fun mafia can truly be I think this is fair for this game.

That would be me, CorruptedPurity, Ruu, coromandel, Oyasumi_Rosie, and Gruffin. Please let me know what you think like I said I normally would never suggest this but out of the spirit of mentorship I think this is a fair way to go for today?
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logic340 said:
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ahh I see :D



Mhh if you dont mind me asking.. what does this "but more new town based on nature of questions" mean? :o I mean my main isnt English XD
You are a new player and I can definitely see that in your posts. Now the newer players I have played with that were lost as town feel more like you and liz. Sollux is an good example of this (for those who have played with him). I get the feeling your questions are more from new town player rather than new mafia player. The nature of your questions and the way you rationalize things in the thread just seems so pure and town. You appear to be trying to figure things out land I don't see you trying to lead people to a conclusion. Which I would expect from mafia to an extent.



Mhh I see.. so the mafia often try to lead people to conclution? :o
well I just made a little conclution up there XD



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logic340 said:
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@logic340 mmhh for me... and for now.. after a little observation,,, Im kinda 65% sure that these people are okay...

1. Ruu
2. Logic
3. Coromandel
4. Floofs

I think thats all... the rest.. Im not sure... as for CP case.. he could be 100% town or 100% mafia.. even if I said I have the guts of him being 100% town but I wont put him on the list for now...

I think thats all... as for vote.. like Ive been saying... that I want to gamble.. and I pick bmoore07 for it.. the reason you could read at my post #453

Addition that percentage up there could be change tho... as the days going on if I still alive hehe :)
So I take it you do not believe that CP could be 3rd party and that is due to his assurance of it being his choices for the setup?


Third party? the one that being neutral? mmhhh.. well someone said that mafia is the priority to kill.. so Im not really into thinking of it for now.. Im kinda focusing on "reading" people atm XD

How about you? what do you think?



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You are a new player and I can definitely see that in your posts. Now the newer players I have played with that were lost as town feel more like you and liz. Sollux is an good example of this (for those who have played with him). I get the feeling your questions are more from new town player rather than new mafia player. The nature of your questions and the way you rationalize things in the thread just seems so pure and town. You appear to be trying to figure things out land I don't see you trying to lead people to a conclusion. Which I would expect from mafia to an extent.



Mhh I see.. so the mafia often try to lead people to conclution? :o
well I just made a little conclution up there XD
Mafia know who the town are and need to get town mislynched. So all their arguments will be trying to lead others to lynch town with them or jump on a lynch wagon that was started by town on another town. They will try to point suspicion away from themselves and their partners on to other townies.

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So I take it you do not believe that CP could be 3rd party and that is due to his assurance of it being his choices for the setup?


Third party? the one that being neutral? mmhhh.. well someone said that mafia is the priority to kill.. so Im not really into thinking of it for now.. Im kinda focusing on "reading" people atm XD

How about you? what do you think?
Well you said that Purity is either 100% town or 100% mafia which would exclude 3rd party. I am not asking you to lynch 3rd party or look for them just felt like you were removing Purity from the list of possible 3rd parties. With him being so convinced about the setup it tells me he is likely either a PR or mafia as 3rd party would likely have no idea as to what the set up is and would just admit their ignorance?
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logic340 said:
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Mhh I see.. so the mafia often try to lead people to conclution? :o
well I just made a little conclution up there XD
Mafia know who the town are and need to get town mislynched. So all their arguments will be trying to lead others to lynch town with them or jump on a lynch wagon that was started by town on another town. They will try to point suspicion away from themselves and their partners on to other townies.

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Third party? the one that being neutral? mmhhh.. well someone said that mafia is the priority to kill.. so Im not really into thinking of it for now.. Im kinda focusing on "reading" people atm XD

How about you? what do you think?
Well you said that Purity is either 100% town or 100% mafia which would exclude 3rd party. I am not asking you to lynch 3rd party or look for them just felt like you were removing Purity from the list of possible 3rd parties. With him being so convinced about the setup it tells me he is likely either a PR or mafia as 3rd party would likely have no idea as to what the set up is and would just admit their ignorance?


Mhh actually I never really think of anyone as 3rd party yet tbh.. at this point you could call me ignorant as well.. cause I read that 3rd party could be nice but could be a problem as well... so still confusing for me.. is this make sense? or is it me who couldnt understand your question? XD



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That would be me, CorruptedPurity, Ruu, coromandel, Oyasumi_Rosie, and Gruffin. Please let me know what you think like I said I normally would never suggest this but out of the spirit of mentorship I think this is a fair way to go for today?

Same same. If this was an actual MS game though there would be no holding back lol.

That being said though, I would how much info could be actually gained through doing this. It really feels like a double edge sword even though we are just trying to teach people how the game works....

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@logic340 a con to having a no-lynch D1 would be that we could lose a pr at night. But I get where you are coming from.
Is not a bad idea to lynch a veteran but the problem is that I'm not leaning scum with any of them atm so I don't know who to choose and I don't want to die either xD
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Normally I would be pitching no lynch at this time but I feel a lynch is vital for the learning process of the new players. I don't want to be lynch so it's almost time for me to get into self preservation mode with only 2.5 hours until phase change.

@YugureShadowmore, @liz, @bmoore07, @Eufie, @Ruu, @AbuHumaid, @CorruptedPurity, @Gruffin, @Oyasumi_Rosie @coromandel, @Floofs, @Mwiep

Are we lynching or no lynch as it stands right now with a 3 way tie we are facing no lynch. Also at this point I hold a lot of power as I can force a lynch on Bmoore or Ruu to force a lynch to go through. Let's discuss viable options with the time we have remaining.

*time to reread I am here.
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logic340 said:
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If I may be honest, I want to avoid lynching new players so long as they aren't acting super scum, at least for the first phase. Only for the reason that the game doesn't really start until D2 for most players.

That being said, nobody really sticks out, in terms of wanting to vote.
I was actually thinking something similar.

While I will be playing to my win condition I will be trying to make this game as enjoyable and understandable for the new players. So while I love winning I will be making more of an attempt to help new players understand what is actually happening in the game. So I know this is going to sound crazy as hell but in an effort to help the newer players gain an understanding of things I suggest we lynch one of the more veteran (MS Club members) mafia players D1. This will give the newer players a chance to better understand how the game actually works as well as not discouraging someone who didn't know what was going on and got lynched. It's just a suggestion and normally I would never suggest something like this but in an effort to show people how much fun mafia can truly be I think this is fair for this game.

That would be me, CorruptedPurity, Ruu, coromandel, Oyasumi_Rosie, and Gruffin. Please let me know what you think like I said I normally would never suggest this but out of the spirit of mentorship I think this is a fair way to go for today?


What do you mean by win condition? Isn't the objective to lynch the mafia?
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logic340 said:
Normally I would be pitching no lynch at this time but I feel a lynch is vital for the learning process of the new players. I don't want to be lynch so it's almost time for me to get into self preservation mode with only 2.5 hours until phase change.

@YugureShadowmore, @liz, @bmoore07, @Eufie, @Ruu, @AbuHumaid, @CorruptedPurity, @Gruffin, @Oyasumi_Rosie @coromandel, @Floofs, @Mwiep

Are we lynching or no lynch as it stands right now with a 3 way tie we are facing no lynch. Also at this point I hold a lot of power as I can force a lynch on Bmoore or Ruu to force a lynch to go through. Let's discuss viable options with the time we have remaining.

*time to reread I am here.

I'm up for no lynch, we need more time to figure out scum. Making irrational decisions will probably not benefit town. And thank you for always thinking of the new players :3
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What do you mean by win condition? Isn't the objective to lynch the mafia?


Every role has a win condition. Basically it's what you as a player must do to win. If you are town, then you wincon is to get rid of mafia. If you are mafia it is to outnumber town. And if you are a trp, it would depend in the role you got.

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I'm up for no lynch, we need more time to figure out scum. Making irrational decisions will probably not benefit town. And thank you for always thinking of the new players :3


The thing is getting a lynch today will help us sort out scum. If we flip (when you find out someones role when they die) scum we can see who was a against it trying to protect that players. If we flip town, then we can see who was pushing to get that person lynched. In this game it's a bit more tricky because no one is pushing foe anyone really.

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Mwiep said:

I'm up for no lynch, we need more time to figure out scum. Making irrational decisions will probably not benefit town. And thank you for always thinking of the new players :3


The thing is getting a lynch today will help us sort out scum. If we flip (when you find out someones role when they die) scum we can see who was a against it trying to protect that players. If we flip town, then we can see who was pushing to get that person lynched. In this game it's a bit more tricky because no one is pushing foe anyone really.

Oh okay, so it's like giving scum 1 free kill without getting an idea of who's scum.
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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
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What do you mean by win condition? Isn't the objective to lynch the mafia?


Every role has a win condition. Basically it's what you as a player must do to win. If you are town, then you wincon is to get rid of mafia. If you are mafia it is to outnumber town. And if you are a trp, it would depend in the role you got.


On day 1 shouldn't everyone's objective be to lynch the mafia since the mafia will be pretending to be the town.

Logic340 said, "While I will be playing to my win condition"

Why wouldn't logic use My? Could this be a possible slip up for a mafia member?
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Mwiep said:

Oh okay, so it's like giving scum 1 free kill without getting an idea of who's scum.

Yeah exactly.

The thing about mafia kills is that they have to be agreed on. So at least there is always something to read into with those

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Floofs said:


On day 1 shouldn't everyone's objective be to lynch the mafia since the mafia will be pretending to be the town.

Logic340 said, "While I will be playing to my win condition"

Why wouldn't logic use My? Could this be a possible slip up for a mafia member?

No, mafia would want to get town credit, so ar beat, they would try and be active enough that people think they are helping, but not enough to make them stick out. At worst, they barely post the minimum adding nothing to the game. The TPR might want to help catch scum bUT that depends on their role. When I played Sireal killer, I wanted to make sure I wouldn't hit scum, so that I would have extra help clearing out town.

I wouldn't call it a slip, maybe more like he is trying to hard to make himself look town? Trying to be like "opps! Teepee I said some thinking about my role with out meaning too! I must be town" sort of deal. I know my role and I have been actively trying to avoid slip ups like that...

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Mwiep said:
Oyasumi_Rosie said:


The thing is getting a lynch today will help us sort out scum. If we flip (when you find out someones role when they die) scum we can see who was a against it trying to protect that players. If we flip town, then we can see who was pushing to get that person lynched. In this game it's a bit more tricky because no one is pushing foe anyone really.

Oh okay, so it's like giving scum 1 free kill without getting an idea of who's scum.


But won't this mean that we would be going into day with little information?
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Floofs said:


But won't this mean that we would be going into day with little information?
yeah so a lynch is better than than nothing no matter what, even if we don't get much out if it.

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Wait... Logic... Don't you dare no lynch again... Also... I'm somehow awake for phas change.
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CorruptedPurity said:
Wait... Logic... Don't you dare no lynch again... Also... I'm somehow awake for phas change.


This must be fate :P
Who are you suggesting we lynch?
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Apr 16, 2017 1:30 PM

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Mwiep said:
CorruptedPurity said:
Wait... Logic... Don't you dare no lynch again... Also... I'm somehow awake for phas change.


This must be fate :P
Who are you suggesting we lynch?

As I stated with good reasons, Liz. Although if no one else votes her, I'm also inclined to vote logic for even bringing up a no lynch, he of all people should know that a lynch is very impt for town.
Apr 16, 2017 1:44 PM

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@logic340
I know it's a beginner game and you wanna teach someone, so if you really don't want to lynch em, then push for a lynch towards Rosie,Ruu,coro or even me. Just don't nl.
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CorruptedPurity said:
Wait... Logic... Don't you dare no lynch again... Also... I'm somehow awake for phas change.
no I will be doing that as I don't find it beneficial in this game for new players
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Apr 16, 2017 1:50 PM

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I was distracted for the last hour what's the current vote count? @Soren
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Apr 16, 2017 1:53 PM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:


Every role has a win condition. Basically it's what you as a player must do to win. If you are town, then you wincon is to get rid of mafia. If you are mafia it is to outnumber town. And if you are a trp, it would depend in the role you got.


On day 1 shouldn't everyone's objective be to lynch the mafia since the mafia will be pretending to be the town.

Logic340 said, "While I will be playing to my win condition"

Why wouldn't logic use My? Could this be a possible slip up for a mafia member?
you play to your win condition. Mine may or may not be the same as yours so I can only speak for my win condition.
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I was distracted for the last hour what's the current vote count? @Soren
Nothing has changed since Vote Count 1.2
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@logic340 vote for someone. No lynch is not always the best for town even in a beginner's game.
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vote: logic

Apr 16, 2017 1:58 PM
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vote: bmoore
Ruu and I are rvs trains
Bmoore is the only one with actual reasons against them from the people voting them
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