VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

ChipLecsap · Jul 4, 2021

shazba said:
As I was writing that last post I started to slide between what it means to be a member of the DIKs and what the DIK/Chick scale means for the MC.

They kinda seem to be two separate things. None of the DIKs seem to have even a remotely aligned personality type, if anything, half of them are rather effeminate...

The only thing about Vinny that was too much was when he trashed the library, that was fucking weird. Who the fuck does that?

If anything, the DIKs could also be defined as a rich guy and a bunch of misfits.

But none of that really has much to do with the mc's DIK alignment. Initially I felt that . DIK=cocky, Chick=meek which slowly migrated to DIK=normal, Chick=total pussy.

Argh, how'd I do that!? (fixed)

Yeah, I get it

. I was tempted to bring up once again the Affinity system, I felt this is where the things were going

. But as you pointed out, its seem, no, not only seems, but it's straight up two different thing, but it can be confusing, because you would assume that Huge Dik,, or Massive Dik is the right way to go but this personality thing seems to be exclusive to MC only. If anything, everyone else is rather Neutral, very much in a gray area.

Lightaces said:
Pretty sure the first time most of MY MC's kiss her is at the DIK party where the MC and Derek have the shot battle.

Davdr - is Right in this one

. Sage will, or Try to Kiss MC, after you recorded Chad cheating phone conversation. "Scratching your Back, as I said". But you Can reject her.

Lightaces · Jul 4, 2021

ChipLecsap said:
Davdr - is Right in this one. Sage will, or Try to Kiss MC, after you recorded Chad cheating phone conversation. "Scratching your Back, as I said". But you Can reject her.

I don't know, but this sure looks like a kiss to me, and is before recording Chad and Troy on the phone.

DavDR · Jul 4, 2021

ChipLecsap said:
Yeah, I get it . I was tempted to bring up once again the Affinity system, I felt this is where the things were going . But as you pointed out, its seem, no, not only seems, but it's straight up two different thing, but it can be confusing, because you would assume that Huge Dik,, or Massive Dik is the right way to go but this personality thing seems to be exclusive to MC only. If anything, everyone else is rather Neutral, very much in a gray area.

Davdr - is Right in this one. Sage will, or Try to Kiss MC, after you recorded Chad cheating phone conversation. "Scratching your Back, as I said". But you Can reject her.

No I think I got the continuity backwards on this one. The Party dance does come before the the spying on Chad thing. I was probably distracted by some asshole deleting all of my post.

Still I wonder if DPC got things backwards at that party. It's never been explained why Sage told Maya that the HOT's weren't going to the party, or why Sage got drunk that night, or why she wanted to dance with the MC in the first place. Storywise the party would make more sense after MC spied on Chad. And it seem's to be an anomaly given that none of the odd events have been addressed since.

Another thing that nobody's talked about is why did the guitar lesson's stop after ep 5?

Lightaces · Jul 4, 2021

ChipLecsap said:
Davdr - is Right in this one. Sage will, or Try to Kiss MC, after you recorded Chad cheating phone conversation. "Scratching your Back, as I said". But you Can reject her.

Of course, this one is the first kiss, being a few frames earlier. I mean, it's optional, but it's the first kiss with Sage.

Lightaces · Jul 4, 2021

DavDR said:
Another thing that nobody's talked about is why did the guitar lesson's stop after ep 5?

Being in the guitar industry, that doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, somedays it seems like 90% of the cheap guitars sold end up in a closet somewhere dying a not so slow death (they take some care and feeding, if you want them to hold up!)

DavDR · Jul 4, 2021

Lightaces said:
Being in the guitar industry, that doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, somedays it seems like 90% of the cheap guitars sold end up in a closet somewhere dying a not so slow death (they take some care and feeding, if you want them to hold up!)

No, that was a story point to Sage's backround and figured prominently in season one. The guitar is also supposed to be the MC's most prized possesion but he barely touches it after ep 5. The guitar lesson's were also a major part of Sage and MC's relationship, something they bonded over, and then all of a sudden they're gone from the story.

Lightaces · Jul 4, 2021

DavDR said:
Still I wonder if DPC got things backwards at that party. It's never been explained why Sage told Maya that the HOT's weren't going to the party, or why Sage got drunk that night, or why she wanted to dance with the MC in the first place. Storywise the party would make more sense after MC spied on Chad. And it seem's to be an anomaly given that none of the odd events have been addressed since.

Hot girl, hot guy, sexual frustration, and too much alcohol. Porn game. It doesn't really take that much explanation.

DavDR · Jul 4, 2021

Lightaces said:
Hot girl, hot guy, sexual frustration, and too much alcohol. Porn game. It doesn't really take that much explanation.

That's not good enough, there's supposed to be a story here and this is a major inconsistency in that story. All you're doing is admitting that BaDIK is nothing but poorly animated porn, something several people have been insisting is not possible.

ChipLecsap · Jul 4, 2021

Lightaces said:
I don't know, but this sure looks like a kiss to me, and is before recording Chad and Troy on the phone.

View attachment 1279822

Yeah, okay. Yes we were wrong, sorry. In my Defense I always go home to Maya, so I've kind of confused the timeline

Lightaces · Jul 4, 2021

DavDR said:
No, that was a story point to Sage's backround and figured prominently in season one. The guitar is also supposed to be the MC's most prized possesion but he barely touches it after ep 5. The guitar lesson's were also a major part of Sage and MC's relationship, something they bonded over, and then all of a sudden they're gone from the story.

He plays it about the same amount in each episode. One or two practice sessions during the free roams in each episode. You have to have transcribed Jill's song, but I don't think that was optional.

As for Sage, well, I can't tell you how many people I've dealt with who "always wanted to play the guitar," and just stopped. Usually it's when they try to learn their first barre chord, but man, the people who stick with it are the exception.

ChipLecsap · Jul 4, 2021

DavDR said:
No I think I got the continuity backwards on this one. The Party dance does come before the the spying on Chad thing. I was probably distracted by some asshole deleting all of my post.

Still I wonder if DPC got things backwards at that party. It's never been explained why Sage told Maya that the HOT's weren't going to the party,

I only know one answer, so I chose that

. But the "Daughters" were not at the party , only the actual Hots members. so whoever said what to Maya was not fully wrong

, Maya even ask about it that the other Daughters was there or not, and they were not.

DavDR · Jul 4, 2021

ChipLecsap said:
I only know one answer, so I chose that. But the "Daughters" were not at the party , only the actual Hots members. so whoever said what to Maya was not fully wrong, Maya even ask about it that the other Daughters was there or not, and they were not.

Maya does specifically mention that Sage told her, and MC brings it up at the party. Then it's never mentioned again.

Lightaces · Jul 4, 2021

DavDR said:
That's not good enough, there's supposed to be a story here and this is a major inconsistency in that story. All you're doing is admitting that BaDIK is nothing but poorly animated porn, something several people have been insisting is not possible.

College kids fuck. Nothing out of character there. And if she's been dating Chad for 3 years without getting laid, she's FRUSTRATED!!!!!! Add some drinks, and she was obviously already intrigued by the MC, from their interaction in the cafeteria. I mean, he's just done what, 4 shots in 5 minutes? That's a lot of alcohol in a short time for someone who has a low tolerance. He implies that she is similarly drunk (a party girl at a party, right?) Doesn't bother me at all.

sorco2003 · Jul 4, 2021

In a quick recapitulation, and more from memory than anything else; after the last lesson with the guitar, the events that lead to the infamous rebound boy are triggered... That is, Chad leaves Sage, Sage calls the MC and they talk in the rain, Sage puts some distance with the MC for obvious reasons, starts to prepare her dissertation, gets sick, asks the MC for help, recovers and the MC brings up the rebound guy... facepalm... That's when the MC distances himself from Sage. So I don't think it's weird or far-fetched that the lessons have been put on hold or ended altogether.

Lightaces · Jul 4, 2021

ChipLecsap said:
Yeah, okay. Yes we were wrong, sorry. In my Defense I always go home to Maya, so I've kind of confused the timeline

I liked the pictures. Kill me. Look at my signature - I'm team Sage all the way! And she looks great in that tank top!

DavDR · Jul 4, 2021

Lightaces said:
College kids fuck. Nothing out of character there. And if she's been dating Chad for 3 years without getting laid, she's FRUSTRATED!!!!!! Add some drinks, and she was obviously already intrigued by the MC, from their interaction in the cafeteria. I mean, he's just done what, 4 shots in 5 minutes? That's a lot of alcohol in a short time for someone who has a low tolerance. He implies that she is similarly drunk (a party girl at a party, right?) Doesn't bother me at all.

Every single episode up to ep 5 prominently features a Sage/MC guitar lesson scene, then it just disappears from the story. For two episodes straight.

Lightaces · Jul 4, 2021

DavDR said:
Maya does specifically mention that Sage told her, and MC brings it up at the party. Then it's never mentioned again.

Again, not really a mystery. It just wasn't an event for HOT pledges. None of the other daughters were there. It's not that strange. If they didn't have anything planned for the pledges, no reason for them to come.

shazba · Jul 4, 2021

DavDR said:
No, that was a story point to Sage's backround and figured prominently in season one. The guitar is also supposed to be the MC's most prized possesion but he barely touches it after ep 5. The guitar lesson's were also a major part of Sage and MC's relationship, something they bonded over, and then all of a sudden they're gone from the story.

Yeah I liked those guitar scenes, and not just the sexual aspect, they were fun interactions.

But guitar lessons were kinda inappropriate for episode 6. Sage was in a dark place and I doubt she would have wanted to. She was sick and had just been dumped. There were other priorities.

Episode 7 could have snuck a lesson in, but once again, there were other focuses.

Hopefully there will be further focus on the guitar later, like playing Jill's music for her and more lessons for Sage.

DavDR said:
That's not good enough, there's supposed to be a story here and this is a major inconsistency in that story. All you're doing is admitting that BaDIK is nothing but poorly animated porn, something several people have been insisting is not possible.

Dude, stop getting all hyperbolic. I mean that is like absolutely not what anyone is "admitting".

Sage is seriously drunk and comes on to the MC at the party, and he thinks to himself that he hasn't seen that side of her. She's looking for some attention and she's obviously attracted to the mc. The mc can then kiss her or not. Things escalate further and she's about to fuck him in front of everyone. She admits she's totally off her face, so she's probably not making the smartest decisions here...

Later in the first guitar scene where they are flirting like fuck, if he kisses her she asks what's he doing and he says they are continuing from where they left off at the party.

No issue with continuity there.

Lightaces · Jul 4, 2021

DavDR said:
Every single episode up to ep 5 prominently features a Sage/MC guitar lesson scene, then it just disappears from the story. For two episodes straight.

Like sorco2003 said, they were putting some distance in their relationship. Look, their are plenty of actual mysteries in this game, but this ain't one of them.

Kellermann · Jul 4, 2021

sorco2003 said:
In a quick recapitulation, and more from memory than anything else; after the last lesson with the guitar, the events that lead to the infamous rebound boy are triggered... That is, Chad leaves Sage, Sage calls the MC and they talk in the rain, Sage puts some distance with the MC for obvious reasons, starts to prepare her dissertation, gets sick, asks the MC for help, recovers and the MC brings up the rebound guy... facepalm... That's when the MC distances himself from Sage. So I don't think it's weird or far-fetched that the lessons have been put on hold or ended altogether.

I changed my mind about MC. For walking out on Sage (and the rebound guy shit), he does deserve that slap from Tybalt. He also deserves a shove from Troy, a sucker punch from Chad, a kick in the balls from Josy (after Jill has properly blued them), and for good measure, a wedgie from Dawe. Get bent MC.
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Separate topic. Look at this glorious quote from a dev. Wonder if he had a certain other dev in mind when he wrote it.

"I make it a point to telegraph dangerous choices and keep you on the rails. Also, there's no mutually exclusive paths, so no need to hold off on any character out of fear of missing out with another. I really recommend you try it without walkthrough or walk through mod on your first play and trust that I won't try to fuck you over with surprise lockouts/endings."

Preach, soul brother

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