Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ivory Coast
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:34, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Inadequately maintained portal with most of the same problems as Portal:Chad, which is also on its way out.
- Even if for one second we don't take in the riffraff about whether more than twenty selected articles is a good indicator of a portal or not, there are only eight articles in the upper quality tiers (GA, FA, FL) listed in Wikipedia:WikiProject Ivory Coast, less than half of the current minimum.
- Sporadically maintained by the creator up until about New Year's 2010 (except for one edit in 2013). A week ago, Northamerica1000 fervently attempted to maintain the portal for two hours; while the edits are somewhat improving the portal, they don't contribute much to the portal's necessity as a whole.
- Average daily pageviews in the first half of 2019 are 10 for the portal versus 2898 for the parent article, or .345%.
- Speaking of the WikiProject, while it is somewhat active, absolutely nowhere is the portal mentioned other than on the hub page's infobox.
For the same reasons the Chad portal is going to be deleted, this should too under WP:POG requirements. ToThAc (talk) 22:26, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per the nom. This junk portal has been abandoned for over nine years, save some one-off updates by passing editors. Since late 2006, the lead of WP:POG has said "Do not expect other editors to maintain a portal you create" ... and this one has not been maintained by Zenman, who last touched it in August 2014 (which was also their last edit to portal space), and only made a handful of edits to the portal after 2010. It clearly fails WP:POG's requirement that portals should be about subjects broad enough to attract large numbers of readers and maintainers. This portal has had nearly decade of no steady maintainers and it had a very low 10 views per day from January 1 to June 30 2019 (while the head article Ivory Coast had 2,902 views per day in the same period).
- POG also states portals should be associated with a wikiproject, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Ivory Coast is inactive (no posts in 2019 and the last editor to editor conversation was a July 2016 comment and a Sep. 2016 response), and the portal has never been mentioned on the talk page. Portals stand or fall on their merits in the now, not what could someday hypothetically happen with them, and this one falls flat. I oppose re-creation, as a decade of hard evidence shows Ivory Coast is not a broad enough topic to attract readers or maintainers. Newshunter12 (talk) 02:03, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Africa), without creating duplicate entries. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:06, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per User:ToThAc and User:Newshunter12. Narrow topic + low readership + poor maintenance = clear fail of the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers".
- In a clear replica of the issues I examined at length in MFD:Portal:Chad, NA1K's driveby edits do nothing to improve the viability of the portal. NA1K is a drive-by tweaker, not a maintainer; there is no active and involved WikiProject, and the topic is far too narrow. WP:WikiProject_Ivory_Coast#Recognized_content lists fewer than 2200 articles in all, of which 1646 are stubs, and as the nominator rightly notes a there are only 8 articles of GA-class above. Three of those are sports topics (Sol Bamba, Didier Drogba, List of international goals scored by Didier Drogba), and including all of them would unbalance the portal. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - The daily pageview average for Ivory Coast between 1 Jan 2019 and 30 Jun 2019 is 2898. There is an insignificant error in the figure that is insignificantly different. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:57, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- Weak Delete - This portal has only 10 average daily pageviews between 1 Jan 2019 and 30 Jun 2019. That is little better than noise, and is a distraction from the head article. What User:Northamerica1000 did is more than a drive-by tweaking, although it is not maintenance. It is a design improvement. There is no indication that the portal will be supported in the future, and no reason to think that the design improvement will increase viewing of the portal. It is simply a design improvement that should be recognized by portal critics as the sort of effort that should instead be applied to well-viewed but poorly maintained portals. The In The News items are from 2019, which is better than some portals, but they are not about the Ivory Coast; they are about other parts of the continent of Africa, and so are useless. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:57, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
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